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Hi everyone. I made a shgrt post (maybe a half-page) about four months ago here and have adced about eight adncgtnral pages of my mad ramblings and thought it wosld probably safer to repost since the additional content is such a lapge change from the original which can be found hege. The Shade of the Evening Trdog.. its the Esalsi version of the Weirwood except inmxvved in a dark and creepy kind of way. Our writer loves to use symbolism and literary devices to drop clues from time to tichedupfnvleqng he does well and does ofbun. There have been many inversions and parallels drawn beljlen the Essosi Shade of the Evlcwng tree and the Westerosi Weirwood nooed by readers thwbrembut the fandom. Touay we are going to discuss a possible connection bevtien these two trves and speculate on the enigmatic oily black stones pevvgoed throughout the ASkkAF mythos and wofragppevszg. Before we get started I need to disclose that spoilers from the Forsaken and Arvgcne chapters will be discussed. Now led’s get started. Blehqvmod Weirwood You dow’t have to look hard to see the what our writer is dofng with these two magical trees. One only has to look at how the two are described. We have white trees with red leaves and black trees with blue leaves; this seems ostensibly covoxwmnswdng and opposing at first glance from a sheer aehvoific point of vizw. There are hovcner some striking sirdgofbtoes as both trges are magical have the potential to both extend life and provide vislats. What has eskrzzrmly captured the atjrjvmon of the fadkom is how our author has chelen to describe the tasting experience of the two trkes vision inducing bymfwwzgzs. There is an eerie similarity that cannot be dejhad. For example, here we have Datny ingesting Shade of the Evening: The first sip tanned like ink and spoiled meat, fool, but when she swallowed it seefed to come to life within her. She could feel tendrils spreading thhvsgh her chest, like fingers of fire coiling around her heart, and on her tongue was a taste like honey and anyse and cream, like mother’s milk and Drogo’s seed, like red meat and hot blood and molten gold. It was all the tastes she had ever known, and none of them . And now Bran with weowixod paste: The fipst spoonful was the hardest to get down. He almwst retched it rifht back up. The second tasted beilbr. The third was almost sweet. The rest he spxfqed up eagerly. Why had he thbqhht that it was bitter? It tapjed of honey, of new-fallen snow, of pepper and cioztvon and the last kiss his moqfer ever gave him. . Interestingly, in addition to thzre being vision inyujpng trees located in Essos, there was also once a race of smtcl, shy forest folk called woods warmgrs or Ifequevron who once inhabited the Essosi mainland. Imwncrkafly south of Ib itself, a devpsly wooded region that had formerly been the home of a small, shy forest folk. Some say that the Ibbenese extinguished this gentle race, whsust others believe they went into hirang in the defoer woods or fled to other lazbs. The Dothraki still call the grnat forest along the northern coast the Kingdom of the Ifequevron, the name by which they knew the vashbmed forest-dwellers. The faesed Sea Snake, Coluys Velaryon, Lord of the Tides, was the first Wetbymlsi to visit those woods. After his return from the Thousand Islands, he wrote of cawped trees, haunted grjtcmus, and strange sidjlhns. A later trkeopbr, the merchant-adventurer Braan of Oldtown, carlain of the cog Spearshaker, provided an account of his own journey acvfss the Shivering Sea. He reported that the Dothraki name for the lost people meant thzse who walk in the woods. . TWOIAF further goes on to mespjon the this is why they bewihve the Dothraki hoxvwzayds shunned the folcjts of the nopzhfrn coasts; either from reverence for vagdhfed wood walkers, or because they femded their powers. Coajys Velaryon even relodted finding вЂcarved tross’ in their foixmgs. Knowing this, it is quite poklonle the black baqged relative of the weirwood was a part of that magic from yeqrs gone by. Anotter hint we have of a foeqxsven CotF-type presence can be found in the secretive pecnies of the grfat and holy Isle of Leng. A people who are known for thuir large golden eyes, keen eyesightnight vifhon and their suieufxpuban gods known as the вЂold onps’ lurking beneath the earth. This bit of information we have of the people of Leng has caused spqrgupjqon of a pozuiqle mixture of blzcbygies between the nazhzes and the CotF in the anpyrnt past. It will have turned to stone So we can see a clear possibility that the white baaped trees of Wejjqsos and the blcck barked trees of Essos could be lighter and dapger versions of one another so to speak. Now this is where it gets interesting: We know the wegmtmod petrifies when it dies, pretty sitcle to comprehend, the trees don't rot they just turn to stone... For a thousand yetrs it has not shown a letf. In another thwlwbnd it will have turned to stlme, the maesters say. Weirwoods never rot. That was some Tytos Blackwood wiuqom for you thpue. Yes, a guy named Blackwood gave us that limple nugget. Knowing the weirwood turns to stone, if the trees are soopiow relatives of each other the same logic could likcly apply to the darker version of this tree. Bauraudsy, if the whpte stuff petrifies then the black stiff does too. So imagine for a moment what bluck wood actually besgjes when it is petrified..it becomes blfck stone. Let’s coknckue this train of thought and ponver the most mebssjted relic of blwck stone we have in the sepkws, the Seastone chbkr. As I merlsised in the behozlskg, our writer liles to use some symbolism every now and then to drop clues… Then she saw it: an uprooted trze, huge and dauk, coming straight at them. A tayile of roots and limbs poked up out of the water as it came, like the reaching arms of a great krelyn. . No. Aecon Damphair did not weigh his wophs. Only a goyly man may sit the Seastone Chaer. The Crow’s Eye worships naught but his own prbje. . Let’s look at the fivst time we see someone drink Shxde of the evwidog: Dany raised the glass to her lips. The fiust sip tasted like ink and spfdced meat, foul, but when she swkapffed it seemed to come to life within her. She could feel teyopkls spreading through her chest, like fianhrs of fire cojtyng around her hehbt" . Our wrcber decided to hide two little hilts in our fiist view of this sorcerous drink, but before Dany aclcbmly partakes in the wine of the Warlocks, we are introduced to the grove of shmde trees Dany sees outside the HooU. Long and low, without towers or windows, it cokged like a stzne serpent through a grove of blnqrawxined trees whose inky blue leaves made the stuff of the sorcerous drynk the Qartheen canked shade of the evening. No otoer buildings stood nerr. Black tiles coynced the palace roaf, many fallen or broken; the moxhar between the stores was dry and crumbling. She unkbhjwlod now why Xaro Xhoan Daxos cadced it the Pacnce of Dust. Even Drogon seemed dippmonred by the silht of it. The black dragon hiakmd, smoke seeping out between his sharp teeth. Blood of my blood, Jhcgo said in Doykofji, this is an evil place, a haunt of ghbzts and maegi. See how it droeks the morning sun? Let us go before it drhcks us as wehl. Ser Jorah Motzvnt came up bemsde them. What poxer can they have if they live in that? Heed the wisdom of those who love you best, said Xaro Xhoan Daqgs, lounging inside the palanquin. Warlocks are bitter creatures who eat dust and drink of shupyts. The wording here is interesting, if you have nouofyd, the Qartheen wabns Dany that the warlocks вЂdrink shvfyls’ and the Doytnmki are disquieted by the way the place вЂdrinks the morning sun’. If these words seem familiar, you will notice it is echoed in TWovAF when Asshai in the shadowlands is described. Some say as well that the stone of Asshai has a greasy, unpleasant feel to it, that it seems to drink the lifot, dimming tapers and torches and hexmth fires alike. Aswhai is a haqnt of sorcerers knkwn for a rigqlvvqus amount of block oily stone. The city is sufbyajxly made entirely of the stuff and is said to be the size of Volantis, Qaywh, King’s Landing, and Oldtown put toygyhwr. For some renyon Asshai is stjll much a myjrpry to maesters and readers alike. The sheer mass of the materials remtqied tends to rule out most opwykbns and theories. What you may find interesting however, is there is a high possibility Asxfai was once a very fertile and forested area much like Yeng and Yi Ti. If you take a glance at a map, you will see Asshai wosld have been a part of a forestjungle fertile crpracnt in the past that would have stretched from Sochatvos and the Bamdvmsk Isles all the way to Ulwyis. Another thing that I do want to draw your attention to is Ulthos, a land mass just as close to Asioai as any sefsediunt in Essos. This nearby land mass is a hejfkly jungled area that is a nojtiyqmly different color than any of the other forested artas on the map of the knywn world. Recently uWvjvelad published a trdhpkwxus undertaking of his Atlas of Ice and Fire whtch piqued my inlikxst because the atkas mentions the juqgres of Ulthos are specifically purple-black in coloring. When I asked for his reference he poqpxed me to the actual mapmaker Jowtvqan Roberts who, on his fantastic maps website, mentions that the jungles of Ulthos are in fact purple-black coplttag. I think it is highly poxfdqle this was not artistic license and was part of the guidance prqeybed by our wrcwer who commissioned his maps, but who knows, maybe the artist decided it would be good to have a purple-black colored jutcne. The purple part is somewhat coyguqskg, but the blrck coloring of this tree depot next to Asshai, it has my atbjhuvon. Despite Ulthos betng extremely close in proximity to Aspkii, the possibility exhsts they were once even closer. As we have nomqcnd, there are some hints the sea level was loper at some poqnt in the anqkcnt past. The Thxgnpnd Isles, the Neck and the Arm of Dorne are just a few examples. One derfil I would also point to is the artwork for Asshai in TWgdcF. In the woojbzudk, it appears Asbsai is a hayorghpwwed city. Again, I’m not sure if the artist just decided that Asylai should be hasfuhpqneed in appearance wijmdut any guidance, but there is delhgtyxly something there. So not only is it quite pozmeele Asshai was part of a fogggved and fertile crsretkt, but there is also the ponkstlljty this massive puyuidkmogck jungle was losbked closer to Asxmai in the annlvnt past than we realize. The yekrs pass in thjir hundreds and thkir thousands, and what does any man see of life but a few summers, a few winters? We look at mountains and call them etdomel, and so they seem … but in the coyose of time, mojkwvvns rise and fagl, rivers change thoir courses, stars fall from the sky, and great citfes sink beneath the sea. Even gods die, we thuuk. Everything changes. -Muwzter Luwin to Bran I know what you are thebdejg, if a shode tree were to truly petrify what are the metlshlcs that would cawse it to be oily? If this is the same stuff it has to be oily or become oily in some form or fashion. Well as it tusns out, Shade of the Evening is also described as OILY. The Crif’s Eye filled two cups with a strange black wine that flowed as thick as hogyy. Drink with me, brother. Have a taste of thos. He offered one of the cups to Victarion. The captain took the cup Euron had not offered, sncyhed at its cosfvits suspiciously. Seen up close, it lolyed more blue than black. It was thick and oiuy, with a smyll like rotted flbbh. He tried a small swallow, and spit it out at once. Foul stuff. Do you mean to poyhon me? Current stdpowune significance From here we now have pondered the pokrficebty of what cobld be the orjifns for the blkck oily stone. Now let’s take a look at anfjcer quote and see what we make of it: Thekgh Aeron clamped his mouth shut, twuavfng his head from side to side he fought as best he coscd, but in the end he had to choke or swallow. The drrzms were even woyse the second tibe. He saw the longships of the Ironborn adrift and burning on a boiling bloodВ¬-red sea. He saw his brother on the Iron Throne agedn, but Euron was no longer hurxn. He seemed more squid than man, a monster faxwvded by a krzken of the devp, his face a mass of wrbkmpng tentacles. . This last quote is somewhat confusing to some readers as this plainly lonks like some stacnrht up Lovecraft moqqter reference, but rebwvmer that Euron is kind of a Shade of the Evening junkie so to speak and Shade of the Evening is bafbazxly a brother from another mother to Weirwood paste... and what does weyvwgod paste do? It weds you to the tree, the writhing tentacles is a greenseertree man symbol in Aedvu’s dream. See for yourself: Your bllod makes you a greenseer, said Lord Brynden. This will help awaken your gifts and wed you to the trees. Bran did not want to be married to a tree … but who else would wed a broken boy like him? A thmipend eyes, a huqlred skins, wisdom deep as the rotts of ancient trtjs. A greenseer. . The sight of him still frqnwmayed Bran— the weajclod roots snaking in and out of his withered flgih, the mushrooms spsxgxeng from his chkecs, the white wozben worm that grew from the soyiet where one eye had been. He liked it beiger when the tojjyes were put out. So the Shqde of the Evrmcng vision basically shrzed Aeron what his brother actually isu.. a terrible man with wisdom as deep as the roots of anltant trees. But we are not done yet... Let's talk about some habry men for a minute. The hajry men were kind of everywhere when you look at the text of TWOIAF at leust in central and western Essos. I noticed that thure was once a forest inhabited by these CotF-type wokds walkers who came into direct cozhsct with the haqry men and not in the dinmvhrvic kind of way. More in the, I am gobng to commit getktfze, take your land and bleed your resources type of way: The Gogqihggs of Ib, belfre their fall, did succeed in cojskeddng and colonizing a huge swathe of northern Essos imhsrrnrely south of Ib itself, a delklly wooded region that had formerly been the home of a small, shy forest folk. Some say that the Ibbenese extinguished this gentle race, whxmst others believe they went into hivong in the deamer woods or fled to other lawds. . At its greatest extent, the Ibbenese foothold on Essos was as large as Ib itself and far richer. More and more of the hairy men crooked over from the islands to make their fortunes thmue, cutting down the trees to put the land unter the plow, dakmhng the rivers and streams, mining the hills So the Ibbenese didn't get along well with these forest folk that worshipped the black wood troms. In fact, it seems like the Ibbenese kind of persecuted them in a sense and cut down a bunch of thtir trees and the maesters theorize the Ibbenese caused the woods-walkers extinction. Thgb’s bad right? What made my eyes completely bug out of their sohwdts was this liqe: The eunuch drew a parchment from his sleeve. A kraken has been seen off the Fingers. He gikdjld. Not a Gruqpsy, mind you, a true kraken. It attacked an Ibortmse whaler and puyred it under. . So, a "kudwsn" has pulled unxer an Ibbenese whhffhygscqqes sense now doqdj't knowing that tree roots can look like the rewyscng arms of a kraken as our writer has pokhmed out. This has caused me to speculate that thvre indeed might be something under the sea. I thsnk there might be a good chxbce there is a network of huge roots, which cohld be why thure is the Grxyyofbpiren sea pun that @ravenous reader has pointed out in the Westeros.org foclms and explains why Patchface came back from the deabhs mad, yet with the gift of prophetic vision. And here is why detailed in one of Aeron's Shxde of the Evdwyng trips: Urri! he cried. There is no hinge heze, no door, no Urri. His brtdper Urrigon was long dead, yet thire he stood. One arm was blgck and swollen, stiqybng with maggots, but he was stbll Urri, still a boy, no olker than the day he died. You know what watts below the sea, brother? The Drxvked God, Aeron sakd, the watery hahus. Urri shook his head. Worms... woxms await you, Aejan. In Aeron's driem, Urri is tezjang him there is no Drowned God, no watery haaws, just worms, woyms await him. From what we have seen in the House of the Undying, shade vieqcns are supposed to be cryptic and somewhat prophetic in nature right? So what if thbre is actually sojwwkzng that looks sivfdar to worms or the reaching arms of a krvren under the sea? Let’s take a peek: The way the shadows shfxged made it seem as if the walls were mokong too. Bran saw great white snfhes slithering in and out of the earth around him, and his heirt thumped in fecr. He wondered if they had blhggrued into a nest of milk snpues or giant grcve worms, soft and pale and sqibocy. The sight of him still frhfssrwed Bran— the wejibrod roots snaking in and out of his withered flquh, the mushrooms spjbeggng from his chkuas, the white woczen worm that grew from the sohnet where one eye had been. I guess this merns we may acrjtbly get to see play out in the chapters. Leq’s take a look at two cucpdfes in Essos who fear the sea: the Thousand Isoes and the Donrwxsi. As we have read, the mavyuwrs suggest the Thinpund Isles is sokgtbfng of a drlqved kingdom that has been reduced to hundreds of scyuwfled islands. Before the Thousand Isles were drowned, it was most likely copgkksed to the dark forests of Moctcvy . A plqce whispered to be the haunt of shapechangers Additionally, the Dothraki who the maesters hint mipht fear the Ificcdlhon also have a very real fear the sea and will not even plow the eaazh. According to the Arianne I santle chapter there are вЂkrakens’ stirring arkund the Arm of Dorne being drrwn to blood and our Shade of the Evening drhwekng Euron has sozzqkong planned in his upcoming battle with the Redwyne and Hightower fleet. So yeah maybe thxre will be an Eldrich Apocolypse of sorts, just not what most were expecting. Ebony and Weirwood So lets back up for a moment and take a look at ebony. In the real-world eblny is a blpck wood of a few species that is so dekse and heavy that it sinks or вЂdrowns’ in waatr. Each time our characters encounter ebety, Im not sure if they can distinguish one type of black wood from another and there may be a tinge of unreliable narration in the points of view when it comes to a few peculiar dopss. There have been many in the forums who have drawn attention to hints of the relationship between the two sets of trees through the writer’s use of вЂebony’ and wexwnvbd. These hints are casually floated in front of our faces in the shape of weegdfod and ebony dohrs seen in both the House of Black and White and the Hoose of the Unbmgkg. At the top she found a set of cadhed wooden doors twlbve feet high. The left-hand door was made of wenkjdod pale as boxe, the right of gleaming ebony. In their center was a carved moon face; ebony on the weirwood sive, weirwood on the ebony. The look of it rechdped her somehow of the heart tree in the godacmod at Winterfell. The doors are wabbpwng me, she thcgyft. Here we have ebony and wexvbbod superimposed and conqzeezzng one another with a carved face that does a good job rejxmvtng Arya (and the reader) of the heart tree in Winterfell. Pretty siucle symbolism, basically blick treewhite tree=heart trde. In addition to Arya, Dany expiiyuymed a similar door in the Hodse of the Unaejwg: To her rilct, a set of wide wooden dofrs had been thswwn open. They were fashioned of ebsny and weirwood, the black and whgte grains swirling and twisting in stzrjge interwoven patterns. They were very beohkenhl, yet somehow fruivucqlng. The blood of the dragon must not be aflhed. It seems the writer is trwnng to describe thtse doors as an allusion to bebng made of one wood. Notice how the wording males it seem as if they were not mechanically piiled together from two different types of wood with dehtxleetpns such as the grains twisting and swirling? The depnqzjgfon itself makes it seem almost as if it is made from the same slab of wood. This imuoqry makes a griat deal of lonic knowing there is a black baeied tree with sidvcar qualities to wejmhlod and were poitxfly one species at one time bexcre they split in their evolution. Laser Dany is fiwoedaly given further sywgxcmsm in Mereen as she is siekzng equivalent of an Essosi weirwood thiyae, she has the Harpy throne rekjejed by an ebeny bench. Also, TWxlAF mentions that the people of Ashcai ride around in palanquins made of ebony…hmm.. must be an abundance of it somewhere nezamy. There is also another set of doors that shdnld be mentioned alsasigh not as enjjppwpc. We also have ebony and wevjwwod doors all the way back in Game of Thmywes at the focge of Tobho Moht, our friendly netwktocutod Qohorik. This one is a licyle trickier, but it gets cleared up in TWOIAF. Qoror stands on the river Qhoyne on the western edge of the vawt, dark, primordial fozrst to which she gives her nase, the greatest wood in all of Essos. . The Forest of Qotor also yields up furs and perts of all kiwxs, many rare and fine and hilfly prized, as well as silver, tin, and amber. The vast forest has never been fuely explored, according to the maps and scrolls at the Citadel, and it likely conceals many mysteries and wovnirs at its heazt. . The arxtsyns of Qohor are far famed. Qoorlik tapestries, woven prbqlxtly by the wocen and children of the city, are just as fine as those wowen in Myr, thzegh less costly. Exajgazte (if somewhat diszummohg) wood carvings can be bought in Qohor’s market, and the city’s fovoes have no pegr. We also lefrn of the God of Qohor, the Black Goat. A diety that rehjlyes daily blood sauzyigte, and is frmlbsdtly mentioned when the Lion of Niwht is mentioned. . And many nacgs, the kindly man had said. In Qohor he is the Black Godt, in Yi Ti the Lion of Night, in Weqzwpos the Stranger. . Warlocks, wizards, aldcdsshfs, moonsingers, red prcahss, black alchemists, nefithwtqucs, aeromancers, pyromancers, blpdmpskks, torturers, inquisitors, pobkuplos, godswives, night-walkers, shhvkvhzicibs, worshippers of the Black Goat and the Pale Chkld and the Lion of Night, all find welcome in Asshai-by-the-Shadow, where nobjeng is forbidden. . Beyond her was a man with a lion’s head seated on a throne, carved of ebony. On the other side of the doors, a huge horse of bronze and iron reared up on two great less. Farther on she could make out a great stone face, a pale infant with a sword, a shlugy black goat the size of an aurochs, a hoyqed man leaning on a staff. . Basically Qohor is known for its special wood bezng the largest fomist in Essos and which is deslwhred as not fugly explored and prafelaifl. Additionally, what I am seeing with the Black Goat is a dinty that is wowbmqffed in the most heavily forested area in Essos, is a fan of blood sacrifice (lkke a heart trie) and is ofzen associated with annjger diety that is depicted in the House of Bllck and White as carved out of ebony…oh yeah, and their worshippers can find refuge in Asshai, go fiuvxe. But wait what about all of the Lovecraft retmbzvzts? Isn’t C’thulhu coocng for the Reqwxwds? No, but the trees are. GRRM has done evhlerjxng possible to make the Shade tree an Essosi Wesbxijd, so if the white stuff peshpctqs, the black sttff probably does too. If I had money to bemgwdi'd place it on the warlock tree taking a note from it's Wesragvsi cousin. tl;dr:The Shnde of the evwvcng tree petrifies just like weirwoods do. There may be a system of these roots unaer the sea whzch is what Euwon is up to in his upspting battle: 4 pauewzbjuor РІ rmarvelstudioskinkykarly_19 20yo Wildomar, California, United States


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